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Glyphosate and Roundup negatively affect gut bacteria

Glyphosate and Roundup negatively affect gut bacteria

Summary

Studies show that glyphosate and Roundup negatively affect friendly gut bacteria and favour the growth of harmful bacteria. This raises the question as to whether glyphosate and Roundup’s negative impacts on gut bacteria could contribute to findings of other toxic effects seen in animal and human epidemiological studies on these substances. In humans, disturbed gut bacteria is found in people with irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), diarrhea, and malnutrition, as well as in a subset of autistic people. It may play a role in multisystem organ failure and colon cancer.

An in vitro study carried out to investigate the rise in botulism disease in cattle in the past 10–15 years found that glyphosate and Roundup were toxic to beneficial gut bacteria that inhibit the growth of the botulism-causing bacterium Clostridium botulinum, but non-toxic to the botulism-causing bacteria themselves. In short, glyphosate and Roundup favoured the growth of botulism-causing Clostridium botulinum bacteria. The authors concluded that ingestion of Roundup residues in cattle feed could predispose cattle to falling ill with botulism.1

In a separate in vitro study on strains of bacteria found in the gut of poultry, most of the pathogenic bacteria tested were highly resistant to Roundup, but most of the beneficial gut bacteria tested were found to be moderately to highly susceptible. The researchers documented the antibiotic damage done to beneficial bacteria in the gut by very low concentrations of Roundup, which allowed the overgrowth of serious pathogens such as Clostridium botulinum, Salmonella spp, and E. coli. These would otherwise be kept in check by the beneficial bacteria that were wiped out by the Roundup residues in feed.2

The authors concluded that the ingestion of Roundup-contaminated feed could be a significant factor predisposing poultry to diseases caused by Clostridium botulinum. It could also explain the now widespread contamination of poultry products with pathogenic Salmonella and E. coli strains of bacteria, which can make human consumers ill.2

It is possible that glyphosate and Roundup’s negative impacts on gut bacteria could contribute to other toxic effects seen in animal and human epidemiological studies on these substances. In humans, disturbed gut bacteria is found in people with irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), diarrhea, and malnutrition, as well as in a subset of autistic people. It may play a role in multisystem organ failure and colon cancer.3

Roundup linked to modern diseases

A review (Samsel and Seneff, 2013) hypothesized that glyphosate’s known ability to disrupt gut bacteria and to suppress a family of enzymes that play an important role in detoxifying harmful chemicals could be contributing to a rise in modern human diseases worldwide. The authors concluded that glyphosate enhances the damaging effects of other foodborne chemical residues and environmental toxins.4

The authors focused especially on celiac disease and gluten intolerance, but also drew potential links between glyphosate toxicity and a broader range of diseases, such as ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder), autism, Alzheimer’s disease, infertility, birth defects, and cancer.4

If this potential pathway to modern diseases is confirmed by further research, it highlights the industry’s failure to consider any mechanism of glyphosate toxicity other than the shikimate pathway, which plants have but humans and animals do not.5 In a second review, Samsel and Seneff pointed out that gut bacteria have this pathway and are susceptible to glyphosate toxicity, with the resulting disruptions in gut bacteria potentially impacting human and animal health. In addition, the authors noted glyphosate’s ability to chelate essential nutrient metals [Glyphosate chelates metals], making them unavailable to human and animal consumers. Thus glyphosate could potentially affect health by causing deficiencies of these nutrients.6


References

  1. Krüger M, Shehata AA, Schrödl W, Rodloff A. Glyphosate suppresses the antagonistic effect of Enterococcus spp. on Clostridium botulinum. Anaerobe 2013;20:74–78.
  2. Shehata AA, Schrodl W, Aldin AA, Hafez HM, Kruger M. The effect of glyphosate on potential pathogens and beneficial members of poultry microbiota in vitro. Curr Microbiol 2012. doi:10.1007/s00284-012-0277-2.
  3. Guarner F, Malagelada J-R. Gut flora in health and disease. Lancet 2003;361(9356):512-519. doi:10.1016/S0140-6736(03)12489-0.
  4. Samsel A, Seneff S. Glyphosate’s suppression of cytochrome P450 enzymes and amino acid biosynthesis by the gut microbiome: Pathways to modern diseases. Entropy 2013;15:1416-1463.
  5. Williams GM, Kroes R, Munro IC. Safety evaluation and risk assessment of the herbicide Roundup and its active ingredient, glyphosate, for humans. Regul Toxicol Pharmacol 2000;31:117-65. doi:10.1006/rtph.1999.1371.
  6. Samsel A, Seneff S. Glyphosate, pathways to modern diseases II: Celiac sprue and gluten intolerance. Interdiscip. Toxicol. 2013;6(4):159-184. doi:10.2478/intox-2013-0026.
  • Samsel and Seneff: a fraud and an idiot.

    • Rob Bright

      Said the well known pro-GMO propagandist and agrochemical industry corporate meat puppet. Get a life Richard.

      • Excuse me, but your ideas about my profession couldn’t be more wrong. Try again; or better yet, don’t.

        • Cletus DeBunkerman

          Come on, Dick. We all know you are astroturfer for Comcast and any other thing on the Koch Brothers agenda.

          • What interest does Comcast and/or the Koch brothers have in biotech, Ted? And if I’m such a well-known GMO propagandist: What book am I selling? What TV shows have I been on? Where have I been quoted in the media?

            Unless you can come up with some answers to these questions I have to conclude you don’t know what any of these words mean.

          • Cletus DeBunkerman

            Come on, Dick. Anyone can look at your posting history and see that you are shilling for the Koch Brother’s agenda. Your continued calling me by another name is just an example that exposes your duplicity. The Koch Brothers have a huge business that supports the biotech chemical industry as well as the industrial ag business. You can try and hide but we all see who’s water you are carrying here.

          • You claim I’m a well-known advocate for the science industry, yet the only example you can find of this advocacy is blog comments? I hate to break it to you, Ted, but the world doesn’t really give a damn about blog comments.

          • Rob Bright

            Lol! The “science industry???” Tell us all about this wonderful “industry,” Dick!

            What is obvious to anyone who wants to know, is that you have been trolling social media for articles on GMOs for years now, and all you do is spread antiscience misinformation and propaganda to support and defend the agrochemical/ biotech industry. You’re a corporate meat puppet for the irresponsible, self-serving agrochemical giants. Nothing more and nothing less.

          • Relevance?

          • Rob Bright

            What? That your special studies in fraud have made you a somewhat competent fraud artist?

          • Your leader of the anti-science movement, Ted Kaczynski, denounced genetic engineering in his famous manifesto.

          • Rob Bright

            Whatever. At least he got one thing right. You antiscience, corporate meat puppets wouldn’t recognise actual, independent science if it bit you. You’re more interested in regurgitating industry research (generally unpublished, non-peer reviewed, methodologically flawed research that requires bribe money and political collusion to get regulator to look the other way while they rubber stamp it for approval.)

          • Here are some inspiring words from your spiritual leader, Robbie:

            “130. Technology advances with great rapidity and threatens freedom at many different points at the same time (crowding, rules and regulations, increasing dependence of individuals on large organizations, propaganda and other psychological techniques, genetic engineering, invasion of privacy through surveillance devices and computers, etc.). To hold back any ONE of the threats to freedom would require a long and difficult social struggle. Those who want to protect freedom are overwhelmed by the sheer number of new attacks and the rapidity with which they develop, hence they become apathetic and no longer resist. To fight each of the threats separately would be futile. Success can be hoped for only by fighting the technological system as a whole; but that is revolution, not reform.” – Kaczynski, Theodore J.. Technological Slavery: The Collected Writings of Theodore J. Kaczynski, a.k.a. The Unabomber (pp. 77-78). Feral House. Kindle Edition.

            Don’t give up, the future of the world depends on your heroic struggle against the science.

          • Cletus DeBunkerman

            I hate to break it to you, Dick, but the world can see that you are harassing multiple posters here by calling them Ted. You are a troll, Dick. You are sponsored by the Koch Brothers network and your blathering attempts to cover your sleazy duplicity have failed here once again. If you think the world doesn’t care why are you wasting your days and nights here, Dick? You are not the brightest bulb.

          • So you believe the Koch brothers pay people to harass your multiple sock puppet accounts in blog comments?

            That’s pretty delusional, Ted. I doubt the Kochs have ever heard of you. But keep on fantasizing, you may be right about something one day.

          • Cletus DeBunkerman

            Compensation can take many forms, Dick. You know that and everyone knows you are here to carry the Koch Brothers water.

    • S.G.

      A fraud and an idiot are a couple of good descriptions of yourself Richard.

    • patzagame

      and your credentials?

      • I have a Ph.D. in Fraud Studies. What about you, Ted?

        • Cletus DeBunkerman

          That is from a fraudulent school, Dick. We know what you are. It isn’t very pretty.

        • S.G.

          I think you need some serious help. You are talking to patzagame, not your imaginary friend, Ted.

          • Thanks for your insight, Ted.

          • S.G.

            Looks like your delusion of your imaginary friend has kicked in again as I have said multiple times, I am NOT Ted, but you’re welcome Dick! You should get checked for mental disorder.

          • Cletus DeBunkerman

            So far Dick has called three people posting here Ted. Ted must own this idiots head. What an unnatural obsession.

          • Here’s the consensus sock puppet list, Ted.

            1. Ted Miner
            2. razorjack
            3. Goldfinger
            4. Duncan DeBunkerman
            5. Cletus DeBunkerman
            6. Sparkle Plenty
            7. GOOSE
            8. SUNNY
            9. Wally
            10. E. Sandwich
            11. Peaceful Warrior
            12. patzagame
            13. Rorvig

            All logins are used by the same person.

          • S.G.

            LOL! That’s quite the list of assumptions there Richard. Have you got any concrete proof of this? If not, please stop wasting everyone’s time with you delusional mental disorder.

          • That’s what the FBI brass told the inventor of forensic linguistics. Ted the Unabomber is now in prison.

          • Cletus DeBunkerman

            You are deluded, Dick. You have made these claims before, but you never can come up with any proof. You are a troll who is trolling.

          • Rob Bright

            Paranoid and delusional, eh? Well I guess pimping and whoring yourself for the likes of Monsanto will do that to you…

          • There’s a pretty good series playing on Netflix now called “Manhunt: Unabomber”. It shows how the FBI used forensic linguistics to make the connection between the letters and essays of Ted Kaczynski and the criminal known as the Unabomber. Linguistic idiosyncrasies are just as reliable as fingerprints for unmasking Teds. Come to think of it, anti-GMO Ted shares Ted the Unabomber’s fear and hatred of technology.

            I recommend Manhunt.

          • Cletus DeBunkerman

            Junk pseudo-science voodoo, Dick. Present some real proof or STFU.

          • patzagame

            How come you didn’t make that list,Rob?

          • Rob Not Bright failed comparative linguistic analysis. He only has one comment anyhow.

          • patzagame

            Was I talking to you,Dick?

          • Rob Bright

            I’ve been on other paranoid ranters’ Ted lists. I’m sure half the anti-GMO community has been called Ted by this point. Just goes to show how desperate these corporate meat puppets are to deflect away from real issues.

          • patzagame

            ohhhh..I used to be # 10…sad.

          • You’re numbers 1 – 13, Teddy.

          • patzagame

            Hey there Dick,do you actually know what a TED is?

          • Goldfinger

            Consensus of industry trolls… LOL!

          • patzagame

            The “consensus”….roflmao

          • patzagame

            ” All logins are used by the same person” Got proof?

          • Forensic linguistics, the key to catching the Unabomber. He’s your spiritual leader, I presume. Read about it here: http://uir.unisa.ac.za/bitstream/handle/10500/13324/dissertation_michell_cs.pdf?sequence=1

          • patzagame

            Get a grip on reality,I’ve seen your stupid post before. Delusional. Now show all logins are used by the same person or can it.

          • One of the best clues: Ted sockpuppets like to engage in endless back and forth with short, stupid comments. When non-Teds stop responding to one sock puppet, another sock puppet attacks the non-Ted on a different thread.

            When I stopped responding to the Goldfinger sock puppet, the patzagame sock puppet attacked.

          • Goldfinger

            See a shrink, Dick. You are trolling and delusional again.

          • patzagame

            ROFLMAO Hahahahahahahha……

          • “Delusional” is an interesting word. I see it’s used by Goldfinger, patzagame, Rob Bright, and StopGMO. What do these logins have in common?

          • Goldfinger

            When a smart person is called delusional by so many people they will usually get themselves checked out by a mental health professionals too see what has happened to them.

          • You don’t need to worry about the ways of smart people.

          • Goldfinger

            I’m not worried. I’m not delusional like you are, Dick.

          • Ted is desperate for attention.

          • Goldfinger

            LOL! More delusions. There is no Ted posting here, Dick.

          • patzagame

            It is a consensus,then. Get some help.

          • Duncan DeBunkerman

            They are all logins by truth tellers. You ought to try the truth some time, Dick. It could change your life.

          • “There is no safe level of glyphosate” is one of the your favorite remarks, Ted. It’s not the truth.

          • Duncan DeBunkerman

            You are totally wrong again. There is no safe level of glyphosate. Glyphosate is a potent endocrine disruptor that has no safe dose. It causes DNA breaks and irreversible cellular death. It mimics glycine in the body. It causes rapid aging, multiple diseases, and early death.

            I am Duncan not the Ted that rules your head, Dick.

            You are 100% wrong again. Like you usually are.

          • Citation needed, Ted.

          • Duncan DeBunkerman

            Peer-reviewed studies on endocrine disruption excluded from EU glyphosate assessment
            http://www.gmwatch.org/en/news/latest-news/17869

            Why are you harassing me by calling me Ted?

          • Sorry Ted, but blog posts are not evidence. GMWatch in particular writes a lot of gossip and hearsay. The sole author teaches English to foreigners, not exactly a scientific pursuit. He has written blatant libels of me personally.

          • Duncan DeBunkerman

            Nonsense. Every fact is that article can be easily verified. We all know that you and your industry PR asset co-workers won’t accept peer reviewed science that conflicts with the industry agenda. Yet, you keep up your targeted harassment by calling me Ted. Ted owns your head, Dick.

          • The only “facts” from that blog that can be verified are that an uncredentialed crank – Tony Tweedale – and a sociology professor – Louise Vandelac – are freaked out by science. The blog simply relays their opinions but fails to connect them with actual data.

          • Duncan DeBunkerman

            Smart people have no trouble verifying the facts. You won’t find them in your industry PR scripts, but everyone else knows you don’t know what your talking about.

          • When I asked you to backup your claim, I expected to see a peer-reviewed paper in a reputable journal, but all you can offer is a random blog post. If that’s your standard of proof, I can safely assert you’re an extraterrestrial once I’ve written a blog post to that effect.

            Sorry, Ted, but you haven’t persuaded me.

          • Duncan DeBunkerman

            I hate to break it to you, Dick, but I am not obliged to provide anything to industry PR trolls like you. You are harassing me by calling me another’s name. You are not in dialog with integrity.

            I’m posting this study for starters because other readers may want the information.

            Glyphosate-based herbicides are toxic and endocrine disruptors in human cell lines.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19539684

          • Two strikes on that article, Ted: 1) in vitro; and 2) Seralini. Keep looking for something meaningful.

          • Duncan DeBunkerman

            Look, Dick. You asked for peer reviewed science. Unless you can tell me, specifically, what is wrong with the data interpretation and why we will all see that you are slamming a distinguished scientist who is respected by the independent science community, but hated by the biotech chemical industry that you represent here.

            Seralini did the two year toxicology study that used the same methodology as the Monsanto’s Hammond study that was the linchpin science used to get GMOs approved without any safety testing. The only difference was Hammond was cut off at 90 days. The toxacollogy finding in Serilini showed some serious issues that Monsanto is desperate to try and suppress.

            You can read the details a chronology of the Seralini affair here.
            http://www.sgr.org.uk/resources/scientific-publication-peril-seralini-affair

            It’s hard to have a respectful fact based conversation with someone who keeps calling me Ted to harass me.

          • Are trying to tell me that Duncan DeBunkerman is your real name, Ted? If you’re an honest person you use your real name on the Internet, that’s the rule.

            Seralini published a fraudulent study in the journal Food and Chemical Toxicology that was retracted because its claims were not consistent with its underlying data. See http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691512005637

            Journal articles are rarely retracted regardless of their findings even though journals are always pressured by interest groups to retract. So this fact raises suspicion about Seralini, even more than the fact that his “research” is funded by a manufacturer of homeopathic placebos.

            In vitro studies – cells in a petri dish exposed to high levels of chemicals – suggest a need for animal studies, but are not in themselves proof of real-world effects.

            This has been explained to you in several of your fake accounts.

            Incidentally, do you admit that the accounts “Duncan DeBunkerman” and “Cletus DeBunkerman” are both owned by you?

          • Duncan DeBunkerman

            Yes it is. I am not Ted. My name is not important. It is the content of my posts that people pay attention too. It is easy to see who the ignorant losers on these threads are when they try to make an issue out of the names of the contributors.

            The Seralini study was retracted on the basis that it was inconclusive — a reason not recognised as valid by the Committee on Publication Ethics (COPE). It was peer reviewed multiple time and republished and is available for citation in the scientific literature today. By the way, Monsanto payed off the editor who retracted the study.

            You are a Koch Brothers PR asset who is not qualified to discuss the science. I’ll listen to the real scientists and ignore the spew of agenda driven industry assets like you.

          • The link I provided to Science Direct includes the many letters that were written to the journal on the shortcomings of the Seralini study. One letter at http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691512007880 says:

            “Substantial gaps in the study design, fundamental flaws in the data analysis and erroneous interpretation of results have been pointed out by individual scientists and administration bodies. Upon request by the European Commission, the European Food and Safety Authority (EFSA) reviewed the study and concluded that the design, reporting and analysis of the study as presented in Food and Chemical Toxicology are inadequate and that this contribution is of insufficient scientific quality to be relevant in the safety assessment process (http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/press/news/121004.htm).”

            I would encourage people to read those letters and make up their minds without regard for Ted “DeBunkerman” Miner’s blog posts.

            And no, I do not work for the Kochs today nor have I worked for them in the past. Ted’s fantasy life has got the better of him again.

          • Duncan DeBunkerman

            We have already established that Monsanto pulled out all the stops and called in the favors in order to suppress the seriously troubling toxicology study that threatened their GMO and glyphosate business.

            As far as the rest of your post. It is troll drool and targeted harassment.

          • The letters to the editor prove your claim is false, Trolly DeFakerman.

          • Duncan DeBunkerman

            No, Dick. LOL!! The letters to the editors are political opinion. Grow up!

          • Scientific analysis and opinion, Ted, not political. I’m sorry you can’t read.

          • Duncan DeBunkerman

            You are so full of it, Dick. LOL!

          • A Sad Little Man

            Seralini?

            FFS you are a moron Ted Miner. Seralini’s research is bought and paid for by the organic industry. This is research of the lowest level of complete crappola. Soaking cells in soap tells us nothing.

            Next you will be linking to papers by those other cranks Stephanie Seneff, Anthony Samsel and Nancy Swanson.

          • Duncan DeBunkerman

            You are the criminal thug and thief who stole Ted Miner’s pictures to use as profile pictures on your sockpuppet troll disqus accounts you use to harass legitimate disqus users. You get not respect from anyone and I flag every post from you for impersonation

          • A Sad Little Man

            Completely unable to defend Seralini’s nonsense research I see.

            No surprises there.

          • Duncan DeBunkerman

            You are the criminal thug and thief troll who stole Ted Miner’s pictures to use as profile pictures on your sockpuppet troll disqus accounts you use to harass legitimate disqus users. You get not respect from anyone and I flag every post from you for impersonation

          • A Sad Little Man

            Completely unable to defend Seralini’s nonsense research I see. For a second time.

            No surprises there.

          • Duncan DeBunkerman

            You are the criminal thug and thief troll who stole Ted Miner’s pictures to use as profile pictures on your sockpuppet troll disqus accounts you use to harass legitimate disqus users. You get no respect from anyone and I flag every post from you for impersonation

          • A Sad Little Man

            Completely unable to defend Seralini’s nonsense research I see. For a third time.

            Still no surprises there.

          • Duncan DeBunkerman

            You are the criminal thug and thief troll who stole Ted Miner’s pictures
            to use as profile pictures on your sockpuppet troll disqus accounts you
            use to harass legitimate disqus users. You get no respect from anyone
            and I flag every post from you for impersonation…..

          • A Sad Little Man

            Completely unable to defend Seralini’s nonsense research I see. For a fourth time.

            Still no surprises there.

            What a loser.

          • Duncan DeBunkerman

            You are the criminal thug and thief troll who stole Ted Miner’s pictures to use as profile pictures on your sockpuppet troll disqus accounts you use to harass legitimate disqus users. You get no respect from anyone and I flag every post from you for impersonation……

          • A Sad Little Man

            Completely unable to defend Seralini’s nonsense research I see. For a fifth time.

            Still no surprises there.

            What a loser Ted Miner is.

          • Peaceful Warrior

            Criminal thug thief and troll flagged for impersonation… .

          • A Sad Little Man

            You are unable to defend Seralini’s nonsense research either.

            What a loser Ted Miner is having a dozen accounts, that provide nothing.

          • Peaceful Warrior

            Criminal thug thief and troll flagged for impersonation. ..

          • A Sad Little Man

            Still unable to defend Seralini’s nonsense research then?

            Having a dozen accounts, and none are able to defend your claims. This is the definition of Loser.

          • Peaceful Warrior

            Criminal thug thief and troll flagged for impersonation..

          • A Sad Little Man

            Still unable to defend Seralini’s nonsense research then?

            Having a dozen accounts, and none are able to defend your claims. This is the definition of Loser.

            Ted Miner is a loser as well as a liar and a pervert.

          • Peaceful Warrior

            Criminal thug thief and troll flagged for impersonation.. ..

          • A Sad Little Man

            Still unable to defend Seralini’s nonsense research then?

            Ted Miner has dozen accounts, and none are able to defend his claims. Ted Miner is a Loser, as well as a liar and a pervert.

          • Peaceful Warrior

            Criminal thug thief and troll flagged for impersonation again ..

          • A Sad Little Man

            Still unable to defend Seralini’s nonsense research then?

            It doesn’t matter how many accounts you have Ted Miner you always fail to defend your claims. That is because you Ted Miner are a Loser, a liar and a pervert.

          • Peaceful Warrior

            Criminal thug thief and troll flagged for impersonation again .

          • A Sad Little Man

            Still unable to defend Seralini’s nonsense research then?

            How many times is that now?

            All your accounts just demonstrate how impotent you are Ted Miner. What a loser.

          • Peaceful Warrior

            Criminal thug thief and troll flagged for impersonation again … .

          • A Sad Little Man

            Still unable to defend Seralini’s nonsense research then?

            How many times is that now?

            All your accounts just demonstrate how impotent you are Ted Miner. What a complete loser.

          • Peaceful Warrior

            Criminal thug thief and troll flagged for impersonation again

          • A Sad Little Man

            Still unable to defend Seralini’s nonsense research then?

            How many times is that now?

            Ted Miner is an impotent loser.

          • Peaceful Warrior

            Criminal thug thief and troll flagged for impersonation…

          • A Sad Little Man

            Still unable to defend Seralini’s nonsense research. This must be more than a dozen times so far Ted Miner. Why do you bother having so many sockpuppet accounts if you are just going to use them to demonstrate what an impotent loser you are?

          • Peaceful Warrior

            Criminal thug thief and troll flagged for impersonation.

          • A Sad Little Man

            Still unable to defend Seralini’s nonsense research. The Ted Miner sockpuppet brigade are heading towards 20 posts without addressing a single criticism of Seralini.

            This is because Ted Miner is an impotent loser.

          • Peaceful Warrior

            Criminal thug thief and troll flagged for impersonation…

          • A Sad Little Man

            Still unable to defend Seralini’s nonsense research. The Ted Miner sockpuppet brigade are heading towards 20 posts without addressing a single criticism of Seralini.

            This is because Ted Miner is an impotent loser.

          • Peaceful Warrior

            Criminal thug thief and troll flagged for impersonation.

          • A Sad Little Man

            Still unable to defend Seralini’s nonsense research? The Ted Miner sockpuppet brigade are heading towards 30 posts without addressing a single criticism made of Seralini’s research.

            This is because Ted Miner is an impotent loser.

          • patzagame

            Yea, you’re a real Inspector Clouseau!

          • Goldfinger

            So what is that supposed to prove? It has nothing to do with anything here. If you read it carefully it talks about false positives. You are desperate to create a bogus issue where there is none. You are trolling.

          • Debbie Owen

            Awww, my name didn’t make the list.

          • Ted only uses boy names.

        • Rob Bright

          Well, you’re an excellent fraud, that’s for sure!

          • We understand why the Ted sockpuppets have so much time on their hands.

          • Rob Bright

            More paranoid ramblings from a known corporate meat puppet and antiscience industry propagandist.

          • S.G.

            Anything to divert from the discussion at hand, especially when they don’t have anything better to say, so they revert back to their “Ted” juvenile game.

    • The fraud and the idiot are you if you don’t agree with their findings. Let’s see — do you deny that Monsanto patented glyphosate as an antibiotic in 2010? What does an antibiotic do — KILLS bacteria. Get a life Bennett and another way to earn a living.

      • What possible relevance does a patent application have to the actual effects of an herbicide? Patent applications don’t have to describe true things, they can just as easily deal with imaginary constructs.

        I’ve got four patents to my name, Annie, how many do you have?

        • I could care less about the patents you have, am I supposed to be impressed? The article is about gut bacteria. Figure it out.

          • Looking at the alleged antibiotic patent, I see no mention of the word antibiotic.

            Glyphosate formulations and their use for the inhibition of 5-enolpyruvylshikimate-3-phosphate synthase
            US 7771736 B2

            ABSTRACT

            “Protozoan parasites of the phylum Apicomplexa include some of the most important causative agents of human and animal diseases, in particular, malaria. The discovery that an organelle found inside parasites of this phylum probably stems from a plastid of plant origin has stimulated research on the effect of chemical herbicidal agents on Apicomplexa. Importantly, the growth of these parasites can be inhibited by the herbicide glyphosate, suggesting that the shikimate pathway will make a good target for the development of new anti-parasite agents. The present invention discloses the use of the herbicidal agent glyphosate in combination with the polyvalent anion oxalic acid for the prevention and therapy of these pathogenic infections.”

            https://www.google.com/patents/US7771736

            So yes, Anne, your claim is denied.

          • Cletus DeBunkerman

            You are not qualified to deny anything Anne said, Dick. You are a Koch Brother shill who is trolling.

            Monsanto patented glyphosate as an antibiotic. That is a simple verifiable fact.

            Maybe you can explain why this happens in animals
            http://doctorted*ca/animal-production-news/without-prejudice/

          • Kindly share the patent number with us, Ted.

            Prediction: Ted won’t share a patent number because it doesn’t exist.

          • Cletus DeBunkerman

            Please don’t address me by someone else s name, Dick. It is disrespectful, unprofessional, and the evidence that you are a Koch Brothers troll.

            What do you call this?

            http://www*google*com/patents/US7771736

          • I call that a patent that makes no mention of antibiotics. It’s about anti-parasite agents, of which antibiotics are not one.

          • Cletus DeBunkerman

            If you had some education you would know that it is an antibiotic. You can keep displaying your agenda driven ignorance, but you can’t change the facts.

          • The patent argues that the Shikimate pathway (blocked by glyphosate) is present in some parasites so it may be possible for glyphosate in combination with some other compounds – oxalic and citric acid, for example – may be effective at killing them.

            It doesn’t say Roundup will cure syphilis.

            In any event, it’s obvious that neither you nor your alter has understood the fact that patent claims don’t have any direct bearing on empirical facts. I can patent a compound that doesn’t exist as well as one that doesn’t produce any material effects in the real world.

            Monsanto’s patent on glyphosate-based anti-parasitics doesn’t mean any such compound would do a damn thing.

          • Cletus DeBunkerman

            Nobody can cure your agenda driven ignorance, Dick.

          • When you’ve been busted, throw out the insults. Gotcha, Ted.

          • Cletus DeBunkerman

            Thanks for proving my point with out a doubt, Dick. LOL!

          • Frankly, I don’t understand why you haven’t disconnected from the Internet, Ted. You’ve yet to say a single thing worth reading.

          • Cletus DeBunkerman

            LOL! You are reading it and you don’t even know who I am. pretty pathetic, Dick. You are one sick Dick.

          • You’re a low IQ Unabomber, Ted.

          • Cletus DeBunkerman

            You are a Kochpuppet troll, Dick. On your knees for David.

          • S.G.

            That’s ridiculous and so are you for stooping to such a low level!

          • S.G.

            Pot meet kettle! It’s funny how you trolls say things that describes yourselves to a T. Keep it up.

          • TED

            That is a patent for an anti-malarial use. It is not a patent for an antibiotic.

            “Importantly, the growth of these parasites can be inhibited by the herbicide glyphosate, suggesting that the shikimate pathway will make a good target for the development of new anti-parasite agents. The present invention discloses the use of the herbicidal agent glyphosate in combination with the polyvalent anion oxalic acid for the prevention and therapy of these pathogenic infections.”

            Who would have predicted that Ted Miner would get yet another claim wrong? But that is all Ted Miner does. Consistently

          • Goldfinger

            No, Steve Munn. Glyphosate was patented by Monsanto as an antibiotic. You are ignorant and uniformed about the facts.
            http://www*google.com/patents/US7771736

            You are posting with a sockpuppet profile that you created using Ted Miners facebook profile that you stole as you profile picture. You are the well know Austrian criminal thug and thief who is here to troll people for the biotech chemical industry. I flag every post I see from you for impersonaion.

          • Nonetheless, the patent in question is for an anti-malarial therapy.

          • Goldfinger

            It is also an antibiotic. Smart educated people know that, industry Kochpuppet trolls try to spin it away, Dick.

          • TED

            There is no accounting for stupidity I see.

            I pasted the section from the abstract showing the patent was for glyphosate use against malaria.

          • Goldfinger

            It is also an antibiotic. Smart educated people know that, industry trolls try to spin it away, Steve Munn. Please tell us why you create sockpuppet troll accounts with pictures you have stolen off Ted Miner’s facebook page. You are a criminal thug and thief and I flag every post I see from you for impersonation.

          • TED

            It is also an antibiotic.

            Nowhere in the patent does it claim glyphosate is an antibiotic.

            Why do you have to lie about this?

          • Goldfinger

            Thanks for admitting that you stole Ted Miner’s picture off facebook to use on this profile to troll truth tellers.

            You are the criminal thug and thief Steve Munn. You have another flag for impersonation.

          • TED

            Thanks for admitting that you stole Ted Miner’s picture off facebook to use on this profile to troll truth tellers.

            I got this photo from Sparkle Plenty who posted it on DISQUS.

          • Goldfinger

            You are a liar as well as a criminal thug and thief Steve Munn. Flagged for impersonation.

          • S.G.

            Wow! I don’t blame you for being this stupid but I do blame the industry for teaching the stupid into you.

          • TED
          • Goldfinger

            Thanks for admitting that you stole Ted Miner’s picture off facebook to use on this profile to troll truth tellers.

            You are the criminal thug and thief Steve Munn. You have another flag for impersonation.

          • TED

            I can’t get over how consistently dumb you are.

            There was no admission in that post. I was pointing out what an idiot StopGMO was.

            I am glad you agree with me about that.

          • Goldfinger

            You are a well know Australian criminal thug and thief Steve Munn anyone can look up Ted Miner’s facebook page and see where you stole his photo to create this troll sockpuppet to harass other disqus users.

          • S.G.

            What does that prove? Nothing. If I did upvote you for anything, it was obviously a mistake. You can come off of your high horse now. Don’t flatter yourself JoeFarmer.

          • TED

            Another idiot who is trying to pretend against all evidence that they didn’t upvote a post. What is it with you anti-GMO people? Don’t you have more than one brain cell to share?

          • S.G.

            All evidence for what exactly? Where is the upvote? I don’t see it. And even if I did, it was an obvious mistake because I wouldn’t upvote you ever, only in your dreams. You are truly sick in the head. Get help and don’t delay.

          • TED

            I posted a picture of the notification above. I don’t know what is wrong with you idiots. Lying must be so entrenched that you can’t help yourself.

          • S.G.

            You’re the liar, bully and idiot JoeFarmer.

          • TED
          • S.G.

            My comment, “You’re the liar, bully and idiot JoeFarmer” was meant as always and in every comment you make. I shouldn’t have had to explain that to you. And, as I’ve explained several times before, It doesn’t matter whether I upvoted you or not since we all know it’s an obvious, overlooked mistake. I would never intentionally upvote you so, you can deflate that big fat head of yours. Does pointing out my mistake make you happy or something? I repeat, “get help and don’t delay” JoeFarmer. Your mental illness is quite obvious.

          • TED

            You are trying to deny upvoting the post when the evidence is there. I just don’t get you people, lying about obvious things. It is as if lying has become habitual and you can’t help yourselves.

            On the evidence we should conclude that it is you who is the liar, bully and idiot.

          • Rob Bright

            So you think antimicrobials are somehow beneficial to soil health, eh? Thanks for demonstrating that you agree glyphosate destroys soil health.

          • The quantity of glyphosate penetrating soil is too small to produce a meaningful effect on soil microbes one way or the other. Zero-till farming, which is enabled by glyphosate, is a net positive for carbon sequestration, of course. And it probably helps soil microbes. So once again, the Unabombers are wrong.

          • Goldfinger

            Nonsense. You don’t know what you are talking about. You are a Kochpuppet parrot who is shilling for the Koch Brothers agenda.

          • Looks like you’ve got rabies, Ted.

          • Goldfinger

            Looks like you are mentally ill, Dick

          • You should know, Ted.

          • Goldfinger

            I only observe the way you present here, Dick. I’m not the one who calls everyone they disagree with Ted.

          • As I said, your expertise in the lived experience of the mentally ill is unchallenged, Ted.

          • Goldfinger

            We can all see that you are a deluded troll who has nothing else but drool and insults. You are projecting your own mental condition on others as any smart person reading here can see, Dick.

          • Thank you for sharing your feelings, Ted.

          • Goldfinger

            Thanks for proving my point, Dick.

          • S.G.

            Haha! Sure. Whatever you say and believe Bennett.

          • Science isn’t a question of personal belief, opinion, or religious faith. It’s based on measurement, experiment, and theory.

          • Rob Bright

            More antiscience gibberish from a known agrochemical industry propagandist and corporate meat puppet. You have zero credibility and even less personal integrity.

          • Brilliant comeback.

          • You really are scrambling here, aren’t you?

          • Why do you say that? The patent in question does not allege glyphosate to be an antibiotic. It claims that a combination of glyphosate and oxalic or citric acid may kill parasites. Is the patent that hard for you to comprehend?

          • Rob Bright

            As usual, you have no clue what you’re talking about. (But I guess your obfuscation of the facts and your peddling of antiscience gibberish should be expected given that you are a known biotech industry spokesperson and propagandist.)

            Read and learn something for a change…

            https://www.forbes.com/sites/judystone/2015/04/01/antibiotic-resistance-from-unexpected-sources/#49ff0575dbca

          • Hmm…a blog post referencing an in vitro study supervised by Jack Heinemann. That’s a Seralini-grade speculation. Have you got anything on point, or is this the only thing the people in your Facebook group are talking about today?

          • Peaceful Warrior

            As usual the industry Kochpuppet troll tries to spin away any ethical peer reviewed science that conflicts with the biotech chemical industry agenda he is here to promote and protect from real science and the truth at all costs.

          • In vitro studies neither confirm nor deny real world, in vivo, plant and animal studies, Ted. They’re fishing expeditions that suggest lines of more meaningful research. Here’s a primer for you and your siblings: https://mpkb.org/home/patients/assessing_literature/in_vitro_studies

          • Peaceful Warrior

            Everyone knows there are differences, but the studies are done by scientists all the time because they generate important data that should lead to future studies. Your attempts to dismiss important science that conflicts with your industry agenda is well known and well documented. You will reject any science that conflicts with your agenda, in vitro or not. The proof is all over your posting history on Disqus, Dick.

          • P. Warrior always does off the rails. Here’s what I’ve said: in vitro studies don’t prove anything, they suggest avenues for research. The anti-science crowd touts them as proof, which is totally dishonest.

            Sorry Ted, that’s the facts.

          • Peaceful Warrior

            Nonsense, Dick. You are still spinning and losing on the facts. I have posted facts and you only have lame abusive name calling and troll drool.

            As I said, the studies are done by scientists all the time because they generate important data that should lead to future studies. Your attempts to dismiss important science that conflicts with your industry agenda is well known and well documented. You will reject any science that conflicts with your agenda, in vitro or not.

          • Now you’re repeating yourself because you don’t understand what I wrote. Bad robot.

          • Peaceful Warrior

            Sure thing, Dick. Your industry sycophant co-workers will love and smart people will laugh their a^s off. LOL!

          • AutismDadd

            Wakefield suggested further research on kids with gut disorders and was attacked by science.

          • LOL, the scammer did a lot more than that.

          • AutismDadd

            So you have no ability to think in a balanced manner.

          • How would you know?

          • AutismDadd

            From your unbalanced statements.

          • So you demand equal amounts of truth and falsity from each participant? That’s not the way debate works.

          • AutismDadd

            Talking rubbish seems to be your forte’

          • Personal attacks are unnecessary and counter-productive.

          • AutismDadd

            So is talking rubbish

          • Hence, you should delete your account.

          • AutismDadd

            No hence you can clean up your dog and pony show.

          • Your behavior is unacceptable, so I’m blocking you. You will see what I write but I will remain blissfully unaware of your demented ravings.

          • AutismDadd

            Thanks

      • TED

        Let’s see — do you deny that Monsanto patented glyphosate as an antibiotic in 2010?

        The patent was for use of glyphosate as an antimalarial.

        “Importantly, the growth of these parasites can be inhibited by the herbicide glyphosate, suggesting that the shikimate pathway will make a good target for the development of new anti-parasite agents. The present invention discloses the use of the herbicidal agent glyphosate in combination with the polyvalent anion oxalic acid for the prevention and therapy of these pathogenic infections.”

        • Goldfinger

          I flag the criminal thug and thief Steve Munns sockpuppet who is using a stolen facebook picture on his profie for impersonation everywhere I see him post.

          • S.G.

            Ditto!

        • patzagame

          Excuse me,why are you using someone else’s photo as your avatar? Pretty sure that is against FB regulations for impersonating someone else. Reported.

          • TED

            Pretty sure that is against FB regulations for impersonating someone else.

            In case you hadn’t noticed this is not facebook.

            I can’t get over how consistently dumb you idiots are.

          • Goldfinger

            Thanks for admitting that you stole Ted Miner’s picture off facebook to use on this profile to troll truth tellers..

            You are the criminal thug and thief Steve Munn. You have another flag for impersonation..

          • TED

            Seriously, you are dumb. There was no admission in that post.

            I said in case you idiots hadn’t noticed, this is not facebook.

          • Goldfinger

            No it is not facebook. Facebook is where you stole Ted Miner’s picture to create this troll sockpuppet to harass other disqus users. You are impersonation Ted. You have another flag.

          • TED

            No it is not facebook.

            Exactly. that is why I called patzagame an idiot for talking about facebook terms of reference.

            You know that you posted this picture to DISQUS when you were dressed up in your Sparkle Plenty costume. That is where I got it from.

            Is Ted’s name Baboon’s Butt?

            If not, then I am not impersonating them.

          • Goldfinger

            Nobody cares what a criminal thug thief and troll like Steve Munn thinks about anything. You are not a decent human being, Munn.

            You have another flag for impersonation.

          • patzagame

            I’m an idiot? You are still violating both FB and Disqus for impersonating someone else and using their image.flagged again.

          • TED

            Yes you are an idiot. Unless you know someone called Baboon’s Butt, I am not impersonating anyone.

          • patzagame

            You are using someone else’s image and name,jackass.

          • TED

            I am using my name. That is TED. It says so.

            What an idiot.

          • patzagame

            Liar.
            and thats your picture too,right?

          • TED

            You really are particularly dense. I never said this was my photo. I have always said it was a photo that Ted Miner posted on DISQUS wearing his Sparkle Plenty costume.

          • Goldfinger

            You stole that picture off Ted Miner’s facebook page to make up this troll sockpuppet account for the purpose of harassing legitimate disqus users whose comments threaten your criminal industrty’s death agenda. You are a criminal thug and thief and I flag your posts every time I see them for impersonation.

          • TED

            No. You posted it on DISQUS when you were wearing your Sparkle Plenty costume.

            Your only consolation is you are not as dense as StopGMO. You are just as useless, mind.

          • Goldfinger

            You are a liar.

            Flagged for impersonation.

          • TED

            No Ted Miner, it is you who are the liar and a pervert to boot.

          • Goldfinger

            Flagged for impersonation.

          • Debbie Owen

            Prove it, you can’t.

          • TED

            Of course Ted Miner is a pervert Debbie. You of all people should know that.

          • TED

            Ted Miner, you don’t have to do this. It just proves how dumb you are.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0c420f84a8a7c5489283ce88500a07fb2f16fb68b3d194bc7b532999b4f67b85.jpg

          • Goldfinger

            Industry junk pseudo-since review using cherry picked studies.

            Flagged for impersonation.

          • TED

            Industry junk pseudo-since review using cherry picked studies.

            If this was “industry junk pseudo-scince review using cherry picked studies” why did you upvote it?

            What a complete dunce you are Ted Miner.

          • Goldfinger

            Flagged for impersonation.

          • TED

            What a dense idiot you are.

            You upvoted that post. Obviously you thought it was good.

          • Goldfinger

            So you say. Where did it go?

            Flagged for impersonation.

          • TED

            So you say. Where did it go?

            Well I posted the evidence. Everyone can see that you upvoted the post.

            Why do you lie about obvious things? Is lying such a habit that you can’t help yourself?

          • Goldfinger

            Nobody cares what a criminal thug thief and troll has to say. Only trolls care about their upvotes. It looks to me that when you do get upvotes that they are all from the industry troll boiler room co-workers who sponsor your criminal activity and impersonation. I would wager a large sum that you have more flags than than posts written with your troll sockpuppet accounts with stolen facebook pictures in your profiles.

            Another flag for the impersonator troll.

          • TED

            Only trolls care about their upvotes.

            That would be why you use your dozen DISQUS accounts to upvote your own posts then.

            There really is no accounting for stupidity.

          • Goldfinger

            No only are you a criminal thug and thief troll, but you are crazy too.

            Flagged for impersonation.

          • TED

            I am crazy?

            I am not the one who has a dozen DISQUS accounts pretending to be different people. I am not the one pretending to be a grandmother on the internet and trying to pick up young boys. That is you, Ted Miner. You are a liar, a pervert and crazy to boot.

          • Goldfinger

            Your nut and a conspiracy theorist who is pushing a false narrative with troll sock puppet accounts made with stolen photos off facebook for profile pictures. You you are insane.

            You are a criminal thug thief and troll who has earned himself another flag for impersonation.

          • TED

            I am not the conspiracy theorist. That is you Ted Miner. You are the person who claims everyone is Steve Munn. You are the person claiming all who disagree with you are shills.

            You know full well that you posted this picture ti DISQUS while wearing your Sparkle Plenty costume, yet you continue to claim it was somehow stolen from facebook.

            You are a liar, a pervert and crazy to boot.

          • Goldfinger

            Nonsense. You are a criminal thug thief and troll conspiracy theorist who is using troll sockpuppet accounts with stolen facebook pictures to harass legitimate diqus users.

            Another flag for impersonation.

          • TED

            It is Ted Miner the pervert back with his lies about photos stolen from facebook. Ted Miner knows that he posted this photo to DISQUS when he was wearing his Sparkle Plenty costume.

            What a dunce.

          • Goldfinger

            Flagged for impersonation.

          • Debbie Owen

            You are crazy and obsessed, keep it up and show everyone your true colors.

          • S.G.

            Get a life JoeFarmer!

          • Debbie Owen

            I don’t know if you have a dozen but you do have at least a few that I know of and you aren’t fooling many with your nonsense. You lie and make up stuff about people, that’s just what you do. You’ve used the grandmother and pervert lies again, so I expect you will soon start making false claims of racism again. By the way, you are crazy and obsessed, that’s why you stole the picture.

          • TED

            Another idiot conspiracy theorist. What is it with all you anti-GMO people?

          • S.G.

            You are pretending to be TED with someone else’s picture as your profile pic. I’d say that’s beyond crazy!

          • patzagame

            So now your name is @ Baboon’s Butt?? Actually appropriate…lol

          • patzagame

            okay discus,still a violation,asshat.

          • Goldfinger

            I flag every post I see from his multiple sockpuppet troll profiles for impersonation.

          • TED

            okay discus,still a violation

            It is DISQUS. And I doubt using a photo that is not you is a violation.

            Idiots. The world is full of them.

          • S.G.

            Yes, you are one of them.

          • TED

            You are just about the dumbest poster on DISQUS.

            Failure of reading comprehension is another of the many problems you have.

            What an idiot you are.

            Have you decided to stop lying about upvoting my post yet?

          • S.G.

            Speaking directly at that mirror again, I see.

          • TED

            I think this comment clinches just how much of an idiot you are.

    • Goldfinger

      Talk about projection. Classic!

      • S.G.

        Wow! No kidding! Are these people for real?

    • Rob Bright

      More lies from a known biotech industry propagandist and spokesperson. Bennett has no credibility and no integrity, just another corporate meat puppet for the agrochemical/ biotech industry.